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i believe it was you who asked me how i felt seeing joseph ratzinger come out on the logia of st. peter's, who i had known at that point for some 17 years, how did i feel about him becoming pope? i said i felt desperately sorry for him because the job is, in one sense, an impossible one, but i was also glad for him because the world was finally going to see the joseph ratzinger i knew, not the cartoon of him that had been spread over the past 20 years. i think that's part of what's reflected in this crowd today. benedict xvi has been the greatest papal preacher in almost 1,400 years, since pope gregory the great. he's a marvelous catechist, a teacher of christian truth. he distills extraordinary learning into simple, elegant phrases that communicate with people all over the world. so there's a somewhat bittersweet sense this may be the last time the world gets to hear this remarkable personality lay out the truth of christian faith as he's been given to understand it, but i'm also having a sense of gratitude that we had eight years to learn from a master teacher, and i think the w
i believe it was you who asked me how i felt seeing joseph ratzinger come out on the logia of st. peter's, who i had known at that point for some 17 years, how did i feel about him becoming pope? i said i felt desperately sorry for him because the job is, in one sense, an impossible one, but i was also glad for him because the world was finally going to see the joseph ratzinger i knew, not the cartoon of him that had been spread over the past 20 years. i think that's part of what's reflected in...
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this may last longer than it took to pick joseph ratzinger. they may need the time. >> they have to pick the right person, and they have to take into account the sexual abuse that's gone on and make sure the next pope is a better ambassador than perhaps pope benedict was, right? young and vibrant and able to connect with young catholics. >> absolutely. and we know this. we know he's one of the men in the room, right? one of the 115 cardinals. he doesn't have to be. could have to pick somebody to be over 80 years of age and not a cardinal at all. in all reality, it will be one of the younger cardinals who is won of the election fors and some suggest a pope alone may not be enough. when you have a new pope, you have a new vatican council. things that need to be changed are of such dimension, proportion, impact on the church it will take a referendum, and one of the frustrations, satellite communications aside, it's hard to report when all of the guys know what's going on are your honor secrecy under threat of excommunication. >> hard to break a
this may last longer than it took to pick joseph ratzinger. they may need the time. >> they have to pick the right person, and they have to take into account the sexual abuse that's gone on and make sure the next pope is a better ambassador than perhaps pope benedict was, right? young and vibrant and able to connect with young catholics. >> absolutely. and we know this. we know he's one of the men in the room, right? one of the 115 cardinals. he doesn't have to be. could have to...
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they were very much in place under pope benedict xvi when he was cardinal joseph ratzinger. maybe it's time for someone outside of rome, who is not engrained in this culture, maybe it's time from someone from a developing nation, someone else to clean house. >> raymond, a former catholic friar in england spoke to christiane amanpour, and what he said, it really stuck with me. i wanted to play it for you. his name is mark dowd. >> homosexuality is the ticking time bomb in the catholic church. on the one hand, the church teaches that the condition of same-sex attraction is intrinsically disordered, those are ratzinger's own words from 1986, but we know about half if not all of people attracted to the seminaries are gay themselves. >> ratzinger is pope benedict. is this true? >> i think you have to step back for a second, erin. this is hardly a news flash. father donald cousins wrote about this 20 years ago. father andrew greeley coined the phrase lavender mafia talking about a subculture within the catholic church. but barbie was quite right. this is focusing the electorate's
they were very much in place under pope benedict xvi when he was cardinal joseph ratzinger. maybe it's time for someone outside of rome, who is not engrained in this culture, maybe it's time from someone from a developing nation, someone else to clean house. >> raymond, a former catholic friar in england spoke to christiane amanpour, and what he said, it really stuck with me. i wanted to play it for you. his name is mark dowd. >> homosexuality is the ticking time bomb in the...
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but benedict xvi, or joseph ratzinger as he will begin on february 28, is too much of a respecter of the process to try to interfere with it. he is really going to disappear. you're not going to see him for a considerable length of time, that's how he wants it and that's how it ought to be. >> let me talk about cardinal timothy dolan, the religious new service calls him today the chris christie of the college of cardinals, a man who's a plus sized purlet who makes jokes about his weight. he said in terms of baseball, i am going to be pro choice. is it possible for them to choose an american pope? would it be good for the church to choose an american pope? >> reporter: if the cardinals decide that cardinal dolan is the man who can do what i just said to crystal, put a forward looking faith on the church's offer of disciple ship, i think he will be the man chosen. i think the old taboo about a superpower pope being off the table is really no longer in play. that had something to do with the cold war, obviously. but it also had something to do with the decline of american presence in th
but benedict xvi, or joseph ratzinger as he will begin on february 28, is too much of a respecter of the process to try to interfere with it. he is really going to disappear. you're not going to see him for a considerable length of time, that's how he wants it and that's how it ought to be. >> let me talk about cardinal timothy dolan, the religious new service calls him today the chris christie of the college of cardinals, a man who's a plus sized purlet who makes jokes about his weight....
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but there was no doubt when they went into that conclave that joseph ratzinger was a front-runner. and we don't have that this time, george, do we? >> no, that's right, chris, no papal funeral. no mourning before a papal funeral. an unprecedented historical situation, and not only no front-runner, but no front row at daytona here. this is a much more wide-open process. as we watch cardinal giovanni batista ray say a prayer that concludes the singing of the ancient hymn "come holy spirit." >> and george, you pointed out, this is cardinal ray, who is right now as we see in front of the microphone there. the important part, george, that comes down to when they go to cast their first ballots, explain why the cardinals will try to disguise their handwriting? >> well, there is a bit of confidentiality involved in this. they're asked to write legibly, but in a way that is not clearly their own. this is a rather complicated instruction. they'll individually walk up to that urn in which the ballots are cast. and say, "i call to witness christ the lord, who will be my judge. that he for whom
but there was no doubt when they went into that conclave that joseph ratzinger was a front-runner. and we don't have that this time, george, do we? >> no, that's right, chris, no papal funeral. no mourning before a papal funeral. an unprecedented historical situation, and not only no front-runner, but no front row at daytona here. this is a much more wide-open process. as we watch cardinal giovanni batista ray say a prayer that concludes the singing of the ancient hymn "come holy...
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for example, eight years ago cardinal joseph ratzinger entered the papacy with a very vong position against turkey's candidacy to enter european union. but as pope he upheld the vatican's official diplomatic line which is neutrality as long as human rights guarantees are upheld. we have to see if the level substance of how much the cardinal's then-positions are going to be picked up in terms of the policy positions he takes as pope. >> so the italian edition of the pope's book "to heal from corruption" is being released. it reflects ideas francis developed durg argentina's economic crisis in the 1990s. what did he do? can you elaborate? >> well, he began thinking about the issue of corruption and the economy and political life in the 1990s when argentina was going through an historic economic meltdown. basically he drew the conclusion that corruption was in some ways the worst kind of sin. his argument is that most sinners at least carry the hope for forgiveness because on some level they recognize they're doing something wrong, whereas people who were on the take who have been bought off f
for example, eight years ago cardinal joseph ratzinger entered the papacy with a very vong position against turkey's candidacy to enter european union. but as pope he upheld the vatican's official diplomatic line which is neutrality as long as human rights guarantees are upheld. we have to see if the level substance of how much the cardinal's then-positions are going to be picked up in terms of the policy positions he takes as pope. >> so the italian edition of the pope's book "to...
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so cardinal joseph ratzinger seemed an obvious choice. this time there is no such obvious front runner and no simple, single, overriding issue that's driving the reflection, which is why a lot of us believe this conclave may be a little bit more complex and it may take a little bit longer for the cardinals to reach consensus. >> all right. all right, john, let's come back here to new york for a second. melinda, let me ask you, when you're looking at this from the outside, other than the timing which you know i'm completely obsessed with, that's mainly because i have to figure out when i have to get to rome, but when we're looking at what might be different this time, that's the excitement, right? what are you looking at from the outside? what do you think the possibilities here are? and are we being too excited? >> in terms of the candidates or in terms of what we're going to see going forward? >> because pope benedict has created precedent here by saying i'm resigning, this is the best thing for the church, will that idea, what's best fo
so cardinal joseph ratzinger seemed an obvious choice. this time there is no such obvious front runner and no simple, single, overriding issue that's driving the reflection, which is why a lot of us believe this conclave may be a little bit more complex and it may take a little bit longer for the cardinals to reach consensus. >> all right. all right, john, let's come back here to new york for a second. melinda, let me ask you, when you're looking at this from the outside, other than the...
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. >> reporter: in 2005, bergoglio was runner-up behind joseph ratzinger to replace the late pope john paul ii. he is regarded as a strong defender of catholic doctrine, described by his biographer as a balancing force. he earned a reputation in argentina as a fierce advocate for the poor. >> this is a man of god, a man of the new evangelization, a man who is a great defender of democracy in a country where democracy is under real stress right now in argentina. >> reporter: choosing to become pope francis, he takes the name of 13th-century preacher st. francis aseesie, who lived a life of poverty. no surprise to those who know him. >> you can see the humility of the man, you can see the calm of the man, and i can tell you, i know the strength of the man and the compassion of the man. >> reporter: his election has sparked excitement in latin america, both out of cultural pride and the recognition of the growing importance and influence of that part of the world. >> bergoglio brings latin america to rome and to the world. >> that was lester holt reporting. in a statement, president obama
. >> reporter: in 2005, bergoglio was runner-up behind joseph ratzinger to replace the late pope john paul ii. he is regarded as a strong defender of catholic doctrine, described by his biographer as a balancing force. he earned a reputation in argentina as a fierce advocate for the poor. >> this is a man of god, a man of the new evangelization, a man who is a great defender of democracy in a country where democracy is under real stress right now in argentina. >> reporter:...
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cardinal joseph ratzinger was elected in the fastest conclave. it came in day two of the conclave. back in 2005, black smoke came in at 6:52 and white smoke came in about six hours later at 12:50 p.m. joining me is george. we've had no pope. at what point is the pivot point for the voting that will take place behind the scenes today, the narrowing down, at least, of the candidates? >> they are certainly going to be narrowing down, thomas. that may have in fact began already. the first vote, as you know last night, is full of complementary votes that don't really give you an indication, that gives the cardinals an indication of where the lay of the land lies. but they ought to have some reasonable idea now after this morning two ballots who has real traction, if anyone, and one can imagine after lunch and the typical italian reposo who may not have taken a nap this afternoon that some of the coalitions are being readjusted and cardinals are thinking now as they reenter the sistine chapel. >> so you talk about those adjustments. if the conclave were to end quickly, after this next vo
cardinal joseph ratzinger was elected in the fastest conclave. it came in day two of the conclave. back in 2005, black smoke came in at 6:52 and white smoke came in about six hours later at 12:50 p.m. joining me is george. we've had no pope. at what point is the pivot point for the voting that will take place behind the scenes today, the narrowing down, at least, of the candidates? >> they are certainly going to be narrowing down, thomas. that may have in fact began already. the first...
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and cardinal joseph ratzinger and pope benedict xvi. >> bret: it was a surprise. coac.pope benedict xvi will resn february 28. that will start a conclave to make new pope in rome sometime before easter. here is the letter from pope benedict said. the resignation letter. in today's world, stout so many rapid changes and shaken by questions of deep relevance of the life of faith in order to govern the bark of st. peter and proclaim the gospel, strength of mind and body are necessary. strength in the last few months deteriorated in me to the extent i have had to recognize my incapacity to adequately fulfill the ministry entrusted to me. for this reason, and well aware of the seriousness of this act, with full freedom i declare i renounce the ministry of bishop of rome. successor of st. peter and entrusted to me by the cardinals on 19 april, 2005. amazing. welcome in a special panel to talk about the resignation. kathryn lopez with national review online. she talked to the pope last fall. david kerr is the correspondent with ewtn, global catholic media network in the
and cardinal joseph ratzinger and pope benedict xvi. >> bret: it was a surprise. coac.pope benedict xvi will resn february 28. that will start a conclave to make new pope in rome sometime before easter. here is the letter from pope benedict said. the resignation letter. in today's world, stout so many rapid changes and shaken by questions of deep relevance of the life of faith in order to govern the bark of st. peter and proclaim the gospel, strength of mind and body are necessary....
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behind those walls, behind those gaets now, pope emeritus, the former joseph ratzinger and we have the seat is vacant. the seat of peter is now vacant. father bartuni krc, your feelin? >> the feelings i've had all day. i'm feeming more. bitt bittersweet. nice to see how the decision of the pope is taken by the catholic faithful throughout the world. following what he believes to be the good for the church and many of us have come to really love him and respect him. and so, you really feel it. i mean, at this moment. well, there you go. at the same time, when you see the -- when you see the swiss guards kind of ending their duty for the time being, i can't help but thinking of the whole history of the papacy. they're a personal guard of the pope because the pope is attacked before. the vatican has been attacked in the 20 centuries of church. even though there's surprises in the past, the schurch is still here and god is still working through the church and so i feel a lot of hope, as well. kind of excitement about what might -- what the next couple of weeks might bring. >> we see the th
behind those walls, behind those gaets now, pope emeritus, the former joseph ratzinger and we have the seat is vacant. the seat of peter is now vacant. father bartuni krc, your feelin? >> the feelings i've had all day. i'm feeming more. bitt bittersweet. nice to see how the decision of the pope is taken by the catholic faithful throughout the world. following what he believes to be the good for the church and many of us have come to really love him and respect him. and so, you really feel...
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he is, before he was the pope, he joseph ratzinger, and a profe professor. that's what he wanted to do in retirement. they is a theologian in part, so it's not surprised in that regard. pope watched the church deal with that difficulty as well as the scandals that many felt that they were flat-footed in responding to. >> well, again they're going to be conclave after the 28th. we'll know for the new season of easter who the new pope will be. ann, thanks so much. >>> so another horrific incident of gun violence, this time in delaware. a man shot his wife and a new woman at the newcastle courthouse this morning. the suspect also wounded two police officers. the suspect killed by police. >>> here's a look at what else is topping the news. the lapd is over a record $1 million reward to find chris dorner. the lapd says they will reopened the investigation that led to his firing. he's wanted for a killing spree in revenge for his dismissal. >>> hundreds of school districts canceled classes in new york, connecticut and massachusetts. >>> more than a dozen people we
he is, before he was the pope, he joseph ratzinger, and a profe professor. that's what he wanted to do in retirement. they is a theologian in part, so it's not surprised in that regard. pope watched the church deal with that difficulty as well as the scandals that many felt that they were flat-footed in responding to. >> well, again they're going to be conclave after the 28th. we'll know for the new season of easter who the new pope will be. ann, thanks so much. >>> so another...
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well, then came joseph ratzinger, a german, but then at that point they could choose to a non-italian being pope. if our catholics, and especially catholics in rome and in italy, are they ready for a noneuropean? yes, i think so. they have come to understand that what really matters is the passion, the stamina, the strength, and the message that a pope sends out and how he delivers it. they embrace that and understand that the world is now a worldwide church. that the catholic church is now a worldwide church. yes, i think there are ready. they're not -- i don't think they are particularly too bothered about the fact that the next pope will be italian. they just want to know who is next because that's always a massive event here in rome. when the white smoke comes out of the sistine chapel, people will be charging here down the big street from rome into the vatican because everyone wantston who their new pope is. that's exciting. >> george, you talk about the challenges that the first has faced. is that going to be part of this conversation, the scandals here, and else where in the wo
well, then came joseph ratzinger, a german, but then at that point they could choose to a non-italian being pope. if our catholics, and especially catholics in rome and in italy, are they ready for a noneuropean? yes, i think so. they have come to understand that what really matters is the passion, the stamina, the strength, and the message that a pope sends out and how he delivers it. they embrace that and understand that the world is now a worldwide church. that the catholic church is now a...
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. ♪ >>> we're back. 85-year-old pope benedict, the former joseph ratzinger, made history today when he left the vatican in a helicopter from rome to the papal summer home, castel gandolfo, for the first phase of his retirement. in his final tweet as pope he said, quote, thank you for your love and support. may you always experience the joy that comes from putting christ at the center of your lives. his departure ushers in a new era for the church and the more than 1 billion catholics worldwide, and soon more than 100 cardinals will meet in conclave to select a new pope and decide the future of the faith. george weigel is our nbc news vatican analyst, and tom roberts is managing editor of "the national catholic reporter" and author of "the emerging catholic church." george, you know, in american presidential politics, we always try to correct for the latest president. you know, we had truman who had too much of a kansas city problem, so we brought in mr. clean eisenhower. we had nixon and ford, so we brought in a guy who had never been involved in politics or been to washington, carter.
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>> i was going to say chris, when it came to the selection of cardinal joseph ratzinger eight years ago, his name was out there before the conclave began but nobody was predicting the universal -- basically how quickly he was able to wrap up the election as he did. every chance that we may see white smoke before we know it? >> reporter: i don't think we will see it today. i said if we see it today, i will fall off this balcony. having said that down the know what the dynamics are going to be inside this radio. but i think the betting money here is certainly on no sooner than friday. they are already talking about having installation mass on tuesday, which would be the feast of st. joseph. if you look at the last nine conclaves, if history is any guide, they go just a little more than three days, but i think what's really different, and you know this, chuck, from the last time, is that it had been decades of a papacy and so a lot of these cardinal also known each other for a long time this time, more than half of them, this is their first conclave. so, there is a sense that no one has ri
>> i was going to say chris, when it came to the selection of cardinal joseph ratzinger eight years ago, his name was out there before the conclave began but nobody was predicting the universal -- basically how quickly he was able to wrap up the election as he did. every chance that we may see white smoke before we know it? >> reporter: i don't think we will see it today. i said if we see it today, i will fall off this balcony. having said that down the know what the dynamics are...
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i think benedict, joseph ratzinger wanted to be pope last team. he planned to do it. he gave a mark anthony speech. we all heard it during the funeral, which we covered last time. it looks to me like basically he has a 67 voters, majority of voters, in the college of cardinals that he has appointed personally. i think they'll be watching who he wants. if he wants this fellow skoela, he is going to get him. >> it's not the ora of the papacy itself, and you, i think rightfully so, say that the decision could open up a period of soul-searching in the catholic church has, in fact, badly needed. >> right. that point about the most modern thing he did is a quote from michael sean winters, a very smart watcher and student of the catholic church. you know, i was listening to chris, and i think he has the politics broadly right, but this is kind of macciavelli versus the holy spirit here. >> which one? >> exactly. >> i don't represent the holy spirit. i just want to say those are the two views. because he is right. skola is the favorite going in, and the question is are all th
i think benedict, joseph ratzinger wanted to be pope last team. he planned to do it. he gave a mark anthony speech. we all heard it during the funeral, which we covered last time. it looks to me like basically he has a 67 voters, majority of voters, in the college of cardinals that he has appointed personally. i think they'll be watching who he wants. if he wants this fellow skoela, he is going to get him. >> it's not the ora of the papacy itself, and you, i think rightfully so, say that...
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you know, with the last election, we all knew joseph ratzinger and so did they, but there's nobody like that now, and with the scandals that are there, the first thing they have to do is make absolutely sure in every way that whomever they pick is spotless. >> exactly. >> and they don't know how to do that. they don't know how. i mean what are they going to do, call the head of the knights of columbus? they don't know how to do it. >> to me it's one of the most crucial moments in the church's history right now if you look at what happened with this huge scandal with pedophiles in the church. it's gone through every diocese and you're stacked with catholics. i'm catholic, i was an altar boy. i went to catholic university. all of that. i think we're at that moment in time where they have to make a decision, actually similar to the republican party in the same exact thing, they could either retrench and become a minority institution or they can expand. youth are leaving the church. minorities in the developed world are leaving church. there's no role -- women don't feel a real role in the
you know, with the last election, we all knew joseph ratzinger and so did they, but there's nobody like that now, and with the scandals that are there, the first thing they have to do is make absolutely sure in every way that whomever they pick is spotless. >> exactly. >> and they don't know how to do that. they don't know how. i mean what are they going to do, call the head of the knights of columbus? they don't know how to do it. >> to me it's one of the most crucial moments...
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ratzinger became pope benedict xvi. he got what, 40, at least these are the reports, he got about 40 of the votes among the 115 cardinals but they thought maybe this time his name wasn't floated around that much because he is 76 years old and given the fact that pope benedict stepped down citing his own age were you surprised that they selected someone 76? >> yeah. i have to confess i was a little bit surprised by that. and yet in looking into the man's eyes as he appeared and his face as he appeared there is a kindly, grandfatherly quality to him that maybe will speak and attract those of us who are much younger and kind of in need of wisdom and guidance. so yes surprised disappointed no. >> what will happen? at some point he will come to the united states. your school, the catholic university of america i'm sure he will come there. they usually make some sort of appearance there, right? >> two popes have, pope john paul ii and pope benedict of course and you were there for his appearance that time back in 2008. whethe
ratzinger became pope benedict xvi. he got what, 40, at least these are the reports, he got about 40 of the votes among the 115 cardinals but they thought maybe this time his name wasn't floated around that much because he is 76 years old and given the fact that pope benedict stepped down citing his own age were you surprised that they selected someone 76? >> yeah. i have to confess i was a little bit surprised by that. and yet in looking into the man's eyes as he appeared and his face as...
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pope benedict xvi was born joseph ratzinger in 1927 in germany. he became a cardinal in 1977 and was chief theological adviser to pope john paul ii. following the death of john paul he was elected pope back in 2005. he was 78, the oldest person to become pope in almost 300 years. little has been said publicly about his health, which made his resignation even more surprising since he said his strength has deteriorated recently. let's get some more now on the pope's health. our chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta, is joining us. sanjay, what do we know about the pope's health as of late? >> well, you know, not much that's new here, wolf. and i think that's part of the reason this came as a surprise to so many people. certainly we know his age, 85 years old, and as a physician there's all sorts of different things that you certainly worry about. cardiovascular disease, diabetes, cancer, stroke. he had a hemorrhage in his brain they think back in 1991 that may have been due to a stroke. but a long time ago, and there was no evidence of anyth
pope benedict xvi was born joseph ratzinger in 1927 in germany. he became a cardinal in 1977 and was chief theological adviser to pope john paul ii. following the death of john paul he was elected pope back in 2005. he was 78, the oldest person to become pope in almost 300 years. little has been said publicly about his health, which made his resignation even more surprising since he said his strength has deteriorated recently. let's get some more now on the pope's health. our chief medical...
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joseph ratzinger covered all abuse cases for the vatican. >>> closing arguments continue in the michael jackson wrongful death trial. on tuesday, a jackson family attorney argued that aeg live hired the doctor who gave jackson a fatal dose of pro propofol. he wants $35 million to go to jackson's mother. >>> a key segment of the key seems to be looking up. home prices have jumped and now this just in, new home sales pric prices rose 7.9% last month. alison kosik is joining us. >> the number, 7.9% rise in new home sales for the month of august coming in line with estimates. you have to put it in perspective. august is still considered the peak selling season for homes. it's actually at the end of it. this could be possibly the end of seeing these kinds of jumps in new home sales. but this is quite a jump when you look at july when there was a drop of more than 14% in sales of new homes. now, that drop had a lot to do with mortgage rates. they took a little bit of a jump on the expectation that the fed would cut back on the amount of stimulus that's been pouring into the financial system.
joseph ratzinger covered all abuse cases for the vatican. >>> closing arguments continue in the michael jackson wrongful death trial. on tuesday, a jackson family attorney argued that aeg live hired the doctor who gave jackson a fatal dose of pro propofol. he wants $35 million to go to jackson's mother. >>> a key segment of the key seems to be looking up. home prices have jumped and now this just in, new home sales pric prices rose 7.9% last month. alison kosik is joining us....
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cardinal joseph ratzinger became pope benedict xvi after four ballots and that took only two days. now, this is unlikely to happen this time because there are divisions among the cardinals and it may take a few days longer. now, the longest conclave in the last 100 years was five days. will this one go over that and become a record-breaker? well, craig, we'll have to wait for the white smoke and see. >> well, we know that they have been here for a number of days now. we saw some pictures from mass this morning. what else have they been doing over the past few days. have there been alliances built, campaigning, so to speak? >> well, what we know is that there are two factions coming out of college of cardinals. one is the reformers who want to change the things as they are run here now from within the vatican city as the roman courier, especially the italian cardinals, are blamed to have concentrated too much power with themselves, and the other ones, sorry, of course, the ones that want to change it. the other ones, the faction is the old guards. just want to keep things as they ar
cardinal joseph ratzinger became pope benedict xvi after four ballots and that took only two days. now, this is unlikely to happen this time because there are divisions among the cardinals and it may take a few days longer. now, the longest conclave in the last 100 years was five days. will this one go over that and become a record-breaker? well, craig, we'll have to wait for the white smoke and see. >> well, we know that they have been here for a number of days now. we saw some pictures...
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. >> reporter: joseph ratzinger was elected pope benedict xvi in april of 2005. the college of cardinals did not pick an unknown quantity. he was considered one of the catholic church's finest minds. he was the professor watching the back of his star-like predecessor john paul ii, whom he served as a trusted adviser and friend. many expected the severe german cardinal would bring his strict style to the papacy, and in some ways, he has. he reaffirmed the church's strong opposition to abortion, gay marriage, and euthanasia. in his first major ruling as pope, he imposed restrictions on homosexuals becoming priests. in the year following his election, during a trip to germany, pope benedict made perhaps the most controversial remarks of his papacy, addressing a group of scholars. he quoted a byzantine emperor, asserting the prophet muhammad brought things "only evil and inhuman." the comment sparked outrage and protests in many muslim countries. the pope tried to defuse the anger by clarifying the quote did not express his personal views but stopped short at an outr
. >> reporter: joseph ratzinger was elected pope benedict xvi in april of 2005. the college of cardinals did not pick an unknown quantity. he was considered one of the catholic church's finest minds. he was the professor watching the back of his star-like predecessor john paul ii, whom he served as a trusted adviser and friend. many expected the severe german cardinal would bring his strict style to the papacy, and in some ways, he has. he reaffirmed the church's strong opposition to...
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friends who worked with then cardinal joseph ratzinger in the vatican knew that but prior to that no one knew. popes don't face the same pressure to reveal medical records ads presidents or presidential candidates and i would suggest that today's revelation may well add some pressure that some cardinals are already feeling to be more concerned about potential health problems of men that may be considering to succeed benedict xvi. >> john allen reporting live from the vatican. >>> today in chicago two gang members are due in court charged with the murder that has become a keystone in the national debate over gun violence. they're accused of shooting 15-year-old honor student hadiya pendleton days after she performed at a lunch in washington during inauguration week. she died a mile from her chicago home. >> michael ward has confessed and indicated that has ddiya wa not the intended target. in fact the offenders had it all wrong. they thought the group they shot into included members of a rival gang. instead it was a group of upstanding, determined kids, like hadiya, were repulsed by t
friends who worked with then cardinal joseph ratzinger in the vatican knew that but prior to that no one knew. popes don't face the same pressure to reveal medical records ads presidents or presidential candidates and i would suggest that today's revelation may well add some pressure that some cardinals are already feeling to be more concerned about potential health problems of men that may be considering to succeed benedict xvi. >> john allen reporting live from the vatican. >>>...
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so they elected the intellectual architect of john paul's papacy, cardinal joseph ratzinger. this time i don't think there is a simple logic. there is a lot on the table, a pope with global vision, a pope who can eadvantage liva eadvant evangelize. when you have a more xcomplicatd logic going in, that makes it more complicated. >> if they become seen as an outside and idea of old thinking, instead of the all-stars they have been respected as in the past and the foreign cardinals come in and say we don't like what's happening here, things need to change, that would be unusual, wouldn't it? >> well, in one sense it wouldn't that be unusual, chris, complaining about the vatican is the favorite indoor sport of the catholic church. everyone likes to get in on the act. on the other hand, i think what is unusual this time is the complaints aren't just coming from the grassroots. they're coming from the princes of the church. and, again, it is not about doctrine, not about substance, it is about governments, it is about how the place is run. what we have seen over the last eight year
so they elected the intellectual architect of john paul's papacy, cardinal joseph ratzinger. this time i don't think there is a simple logic. there is a lot on the table, a pope with global vision, a pope who can eadvantage liva eadvant evangelize. when you have a more xcomplicatd logic going in, that makes it more complicated. >> if they become seen as an outside and idea of old thinking, instead of the all-stars they have been respected as in the past and the foreign cardinals come in...
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member of the ee legal swiss guard who protected the holy and also knew benedict when benedict was joseph ratzinger. >> he could work with a real crowd and with his experience in theater and poetry and everything, he would really reach people like that. >> widmer, an author who teaches at catholic university, says as a swiss guard you never spoke to a pope or cardinal unless he addressed you first but he and benedict would chat when benedict was waiting to see pope john paul. >> completely open. >> reporter: what was he like to talk to? >> very -- he would ask me what my interests were and how i felt and how i saw things. >> reporter: and with a sense of humor, like when benedict offered to sign widmer's copy of a book that he written which was pretty thick. >> when i gave it to him he said, you're really reading this? and i said, i'm trying. he said, it helps to do it in small steps. >> reporter: but he also had a personal crisis as a guard, spending his first christmas away from home. john paul helped him through that. >> i sort of had a meltdown and right at that moment he comes out of
member of the ee legal swiss guard who protected the holy and also knew benedict when benedict was joseph ratzinger. >> he could work with a real crowd and with his experience in theater and poetry and everything, he would really reach people like that. >> widmer, an author who teaches at catholic university, says as a swiss guard you never spoke to a pope or cardinal unless he addressed you first but he and benedict would chat when benedict was waiting to see pope john paul....
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unlike eight years ago when cardinal joseph ratzinger was the front runner to replace pope john paul ii, this time no clear consensus around the successor, you hear names but no one that this a front-runner. cardinals within the vatican are hoping to energize the 1.2 billion catholics. the first pope from latin america, she werer exis the hope. but angelo scola said to be the favorite of cardinals from nation. timothy dolan of new york and sean patrick o'malley of boston are believed to be in the mix. >> it is a place filled with see kress circumstance mystery, corruption and scandal and the next pope has to address all that and give catholics both here in the united states and around the world the sense that he gets it, the see kress say that surrounded the papacy for the last 20 years has got to be eliminated. >> if they hired me as a marketer, no, i say this seriously, work to hire someone younger. and is that church obviously in turmoil now and to have somebody that physically appears they are of this time, for lack of a better word, would immediately send a signal. it sounds lik
unlike eight years ago when cardinal joseph ratzinger was the front runner to replace pope john paul ii, this time no clear consensus around the successor, you hear names but no one that this a front-runner. cardinals within the vatican are hoping to energize the 1.2 billion catholics. the first pope from latin america, she werer exis the hope. but angelo scola said to be the favorite of cardinals from nation. timothy dolan of new york and sean patrick o'malley of boston are believed to be in...
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. >> joseph ratzinger, cardinal ratzinger then was 78 years old when he got this job and was actually looking at retirement. he was ready to step down. >> right. >> but obviously the vatican calls -- >> he was moving to boca. hey, how do you know, mika brzezinski, that your church, the catholic church, is in serious, serious trouble? >> how? >> when mike barnicle is speaking. when he becomes -- >> when i'm at the pope desk. >> when he's at the pope desk. where is pat buchanan? hey, somebody call pat buchanan and wake him up. what's up next? >>> well, we're going to talk about the state of the union next. coming up, deputy majority whip congressman tom cole will join us. also former deputy campaign manager for the obama campaign, stephanie cutter will be here to preview the president's state of the union address. and later, we'll talk to nbc news chief white house correspondent, chuck todd. and "new york times" columnist gail collins. and in just a few minutes, sports columnist for the "new york daily news," mike lupica joins the table. he knows it's true. look at him, he looks guilty.
. >> joseph ratzinger, cardinal ratzinger then was 78 years old when he got this job and was actually looking at retirement. he was ready to step down. >> right. >> but obviously the vatican calls -- >> he was moving to boca. hey, how do you know, mika brzezinski, that your church, the catholic church, is in serious, serious trouble? >> how? >> when mike barnicle is speaking. when he becomes -- >> when i'm at the pope desk. >> when he's at the...